Help with the 8 meter toss ?

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asked Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
I'm left handed and throw with my left foot forward , no step. I've noticed that about 90% of my misses go just to the right by an inch or  to.When I try to make a correction I usually throw short and feel awkward ,no smoothness. Anybody have any advice ?

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answered Feb 6, 2013 by hardcoreleftie Ironkubb ✭ (1,210 points)
First, being left handed helps teams for a tournament.

Second, it is just practice time. I recently (October) switched to goofy footed. I had always thrown with my opposite foot forward similar to a baseball, bowling, etc. So making the switch has been weird.  I'm by no means a great kubb player, but have been coaching for over 23 years (I'm only 36).

Next, do you step at all or is it from a standstill?

 

If you are missing 90% of the time...maybe we can fix stuff. If only miss 50% or less....then it is just practice. Focus on breathing, hand position, and leg bend.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
I stand still. I guess I was not clear .I'm a pretty good 8 meter thrower. It' just that when I miss it's almost always to the right by just a bit.
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answered Feb 6, 2013 by Eric A. Kubblic ❚ (7,810 points)
I would look into your position with your feet and how you are holding the baton. Also, it is too tough to type, but email me or give me a call, and I can talk to you about the "and one" theory. The premise of your question, with all due respect, is only hurting you. 715.830.0122.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by hardcoreleftie Ironkubb ✭ (1,210 points)
I'd like to hear this "and one" theory.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
darn I,m now labeled as the guy who hits only 10% of his 8 meter shots. What I meant was when i do miss its always just to the  right. I am interested in the "and one theory" also.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by ChrisHodges Kubblic ❚ (7,300 points)
I want to hear about the bad premise!
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
I would like to hear about the bad premise also.Somehow I feel slightly tarnished !! (joke)
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
It has all been made clear. Thanks Mr. Miyagi !! I'll leave it to Eric to explain, but it makes sense to me.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Eric A. Kubblic ❚ (7,810 points)
Great finally talking to you Dano. Again, you come to any tournament, we will treat you like a rock star.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Eric A. Kubblic ❚ (7,810 points)
Chris and Jason, you guys are too good and I have to play against you too much. Just kidding. I put this in the "graduate level" Kubb talk, and I have decided it is just too difficult to do by typing, as i waste too much time. editing and i never am able to type it well. It creates discussion and counter discussion, and I much rather do that in person and not when one is rushed. If needed, like Dano, then on the phone. So next time we are together, ask away. Perhaps you will be a believer, perhaps not, as it took me over a year to believe it, and now I am the constant struggle between two schools of thought, but I am doing my best at taking the one out of my head and being a true "and oner".
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answered Feb 6, 2013 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,350 points)
Dano - I'm left handed and step forward with my right foot as I throw. What's helped my accuracy is stretching out as far into the pitch as I can off my lead foot and trying to release when my arm is furthest extended.

I think of it this way, if my arm extended straight and pointed at the kubb I want to hit and I'm extended over the pitch - the baton has the shortest distance to travel and the greatest chance of staying straight.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,350 points)
also - I recommend spending some portion of your practice time @ 9 and 10 meters. I've found that a good way to calibrate.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dobbie Kubblic ❚ (6,450 points)
I have been known to aim for a twig or a leaf 1 meter behind the target Kubb. It helps me, but it might just be a mental thing.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
I'll give that a try. I always aim for the spot where the kubb meets the ground, my theory being if I'm short the baton will slide and if I'm  long it will hit the top half of the kubb. By aiming a  bit long maybe I will trow thru the Kubb and prevent the baton from missing to the right.
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answered Feb 6, 2013 by ChrisHodges Kubblic ❚ (7,300 points)
I don't want to present myself as an 8m expert (my bread and butter has always been in the field), but I've been working hard on it for a while now and I'm happy to share what I've picked up.

Typically, when I 'pull' a throw (being right handed missing to the left) it's because my shoulders weren't square to my target. Keeping my front foot pointed at the target, back straight, and shoulders square allows for a smooth back swing and a toss that is generally on line.

I haven't found any tricks to getting the range right - it's just a matter of practice and getting the right feel. If your range is perfect then the rotation doesn't matter, but on the other hand the right rotation can forgive errors in distance, you know what I mean? Timing your rotation is all in the grip; holding toward the end spins it faster and holding toward the middle spins it slower. Wood varies in density so you have to adapt your toss to the weight of the baton in your hand - that's the real challenge, and the only answer is practice, practice, practice...

Oh, and don't get me started on windage. At this point I'm still in the guess-and-hope phase when it comes to adjusting for a cross wind.
commented Feb 6, 2013 by Dano Ironkubb ✭ (2,330 points)
I always point my front foot toes right at the target. It may be that my shoulders are not squared up. Nothing more frustrating then  having the right distance, the perfect rotation  and seeing the toss slide by an inch to the right. Thanks to all for the tips. Sometimes the smallest adjustment can be the solution.
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