Do you remove game pieces if you are testing if a kubb will fall?

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asked Aug 1, 2015 by Fraim Kubbnoob (640 points)
In this situation I throw a baton at a field kubb and a game piece (baton or toppled kubb) is touching a field kubb, I  know I can ask the opposing team to test the game piece to see if the field kubb falls. They are supposed to gently move the game piece so it is not touching the field kubb anymore to see if it will fall.

 

My question is what you do with the game piece after the test is completed. Is the game piece removed from the field or put back into place?

1 Answer

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answered Aug 3, 2015 by ChrisHodges Kubblic ❚ (7,300 points)
I move the pieces the minimum amount necessary to make the determination, then return all pieces as closely as possible to their original positions.
commented Aug 5, 2015 by Jesse
Thanks for the response Chris.

That's the way I have always played but there were several times at nationals were I witnessed teams saying that they would check to see if kubb would fall, but that the kubb that was resting or touching the kubb to be tested would be removed if it didn't fall.

Then you were left with the decision of having it removed from the field if the kubb stayed standing but I would rather have that remain where it was so I have more wood to throw at to knock down the group.

I had not heard of this remove the piece interpretation and wanted to check to see if it's legit.
commented Aug 5, 2015 by ChrisHodges Kubblic ❚ (7,300 points)
It's not legit. According to the US National Kubb Championship rulebook rule II.B.9:

"If  a  kubb  is  struck  and,  without  ever  becoming  parallel  to  the  ground,  comes to  rest  leaning  on  a  game  component,  the  attacking  team  may  ask  to temporarily  halt  play.  The  defending  team  is  to  move  the  supporting  piece(s) a  minimum  amount  required  to  determine  if  the  leaning  piece  will  fall,  without touching  the  kubb  in  question.  Once  a  determination  has  been  made,  pieces are  to  be  set  back  as  close  to  their  original  positions  as  possible.  If  a  piece will  fall,  it  is  considered  toppled  the  remainder  of  the  phase. "
commented Aug 6, 2015 by Dobbie Kubblic ❚ (6,450 points)
When leaning pieces are leaning on other leaning pieces...that can get tricky.

The best way to resolve this is to have both teams agree to test a specific leaner (we will call it Leaner A), then make the determination if Leaner A is down or not. Reset all game components back to their original position, take a breath, then determine if Leaner B is down or not. Continue this until all Leaners have been determined to be toppled or standing. You may have to mark leaners so everyone is clear. Communication and agreement is key when doing this type of checking.

In the multiple leaners scenario you will have to marginally move one or more of the leaners to validate the other, but as long as care is taken, both teams can come to agreement, and all testing would be done in accordance with the rules.
commented Aug 16, 2015 by Evan F Ironkubb ✭ (1,960 points)
Good question Jesse.  Josh and Chris as usual are correct from my understanding.   I have always made every attempt to put things back the way they were.   As a defender, I typically hope for as much debris left in place as possible to hinder the throwing team (there are times as you mentioned that if they are touching it can help the offensive teams)., Unfortunately, it sounds like that rule was misunderstood in your games.
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