What improvements would you make to the Planet Kubb Scoresheet?

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asked Jul 16, 2012 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,330 points)

I just uploaded a new version of the Planet Kubb Scoresheet. This version fixes a number of issues Jamie and I identified while scoring Sunday's Championship games.

Major improvements include:

  •  a place to list up to 6 players per team
  •  a place to denote rethrown kubbs 
  •  a place to denote punishment kubbs

Take a look, try it out, and let me know what improvements you'd like to see on the Scoresheet.

commented Jul 16, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
It looks great Garrick!

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answered Jul 16, 2012 by Dobbie Kubblic ❚ (6,450 points)
edited Jul 16, 2012 by thingles
Rescue Kubbs perhaps
commented Jul 16, 2012 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,330 points)
thanks Dobbie. Can you describe a rescue kubb (then we can have it in the glossary as well)?
commented Jul 16, 2012 by THansenite Ironkubb ✭ (2,660 points)
A "rescue" is typically done when there is a penalty kubb or badly thrown kubb deep in the field, near a line, and/or in an unsatisfactory location in the pitch.  The "rescue" is performed during the inkasting phase of the round.  One of the thrown kubbs is aimed at the badly placed kubb to attempt knocking it out of bounds.  Ideally, both kubbs then go out of bounds with the rescued kubb being added to the kubbs being thrown and the already thrown kubb being thrown again as the second attempt.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by Dobbie Kubblic ❚ (6,450 points)
The U.S. National Championship Rules specifically state the following:

Sec. II.C.5 – If a thrown field kubb impacts a field kubb in play and the struck field kubb comes to rest after impact in such a say that it cannot be raised in bounds:  (a) it is returned to the attacking team to be thrown and is treated as if it had not yet been thrown in this round. This applies only to field kubbs having been left standing in a previous round.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,330 points)
brilliant. thanks for the clarification.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
Rescue kubbs make my head hurt in relation to the notation. Would it be fine to just note that as a rethrow (which it is sort of) and then note it in the turn notes? Seems to work for me.

That does mean that a team could throw "1,2,0" which looks odd, but would be a rescue.
commented Jul 17, 2012 by THansenite Ironkubb ✭ (2,660 points)
The only issue with putting it as a rethrow is what happens if you throw that rescued kubb out of play your first toss?  You still get a second toss with it.  If we are putting it in current notation, that should be added to the total kubbs thrown.
asked Aug 13, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
edited Aug 13, 2012 by thingles
Recording Rescue Kubbs in Planet Kubb Notation
commented Aug 13, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
Yeah, my suggestion on this topic was definitely wrong. Started new question on it here. http://ask.planetkubb.com/768/recording-rescue-kubbs-in-planet-kubb-notation
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answered Jul 16, 2012 by THansenite Ironkubb ✭ (2,660 points)
An optional component could be "advantage line depth." There is a huge difference when attacking kubbs from the center line versus a step up from the baseline.  Of course, this would be somewhat subjective as we can't really measure how far the advantage line is from center, but maybe approximately two meters back from the center could be a "strong advantage line."  A "weak advantage line" could cover from the baseline up two meters.  The middle area could be an "average advantage line" or something like that.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,330 points)
I like this - I think there's a simple way to denote it. I think there is a meaningful difference between an advantages line that's the result of a punishment kubb on the baseline and one inches from the center line.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by Dobbie Kubblic ❚ (6,450 points)
I think for stats purposes, up or back would probably work. Is it close to the line, or is it not is all I care about. Might be easier.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
It would be pretty easy to visualize each side of the pitch in half and indicate if the advantage line is front-half or back-half.

I worry about creeping more "stuff" into the notation though before we get more teams and tournaments using it. Beautifully accurate notation that is too complex to get adoption wouldn't help. :-)

That being said, the score sheet could easily accommodate two checkboxes for different advantage lines.
commented Jul 16, 2012 by garrickvanburen Kubblic ❚ (7,330 points)
Just uploaded a new version with 3 options for describing the advantage line: base(line) - mid(field) - center(line). Download a fresh one here - http://wiki.planetkubb.com/wiki/Scoresheet - I'm calling this a v1.0 Thanks Tony and Dobbie for the suggestions.
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answered Jul 16, 2012 by thingles Kubblic ❚ (6,110 points)
edited Jul 16, 2012 by thingles
I added "I" to the notation on the wiki. Would be good to add that to the reference on the bottom. I really like the new inkast, rethrow, penalty box.
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